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หน้านี้เป็นฟอรัมสำหรับบรรณาธิการเพื่อแนะนำรายการสำหรับการรวมไว้ในIn the news (ITN) เทมเพลตที่มีการป้องกันในหน้าหลักตลอดจนฟอรัมสำหรับการอภิปรายของผู้สมัคร นี่คือไม่ได้หน้าเพื่อรายงานข้อผิดพลาดในส่วนของไอทีในหน้าหลัก-โปรดไปที่ส่วนที่เหมาะสมที่WP: ข้อผิดพลาด

หน้านี้ผู้สมัครจะรวมกับหน้าประจำวันของประตู: เหตุการณ์ปัจจุบัน ภายใต้ส่วนหัวของแต่ละส่วนรายวันด้านล่างคือพอร์ทัลที่เรียกใช้:รายการเหตุการณ์ปัจจุบันสำหรับวันนั้น (มีส่วนหัวสีเขียวอ่อน) หน้าพอร์ทัลของแต่ละวันตามด้วยส่วนย่อยสำหรับข้อเสนอแนะและการอภิปราย

ศัพท์เฉพาะบางคำ: RDหมายถึง"การเสียชีวิตล่าสุด"ซึ่งเป็นส่วนย่อยของกล่องข่าวที่แสดงเฉพาะชื่อของผู้เสียชีวิตที่มีชื่อเสียงล่าสุด Blurbหมายถึงประโยคเต็มที่ใช้พื้นที่ส่วนใหญ่ของกล่องข่าว การเสียชีวิตที่มีสิทธิ์ส่วนใหญ่จะแสดงอยู่ในส่วนการเสียชีวิตล่าสุดของเทมเพลต ITN อย่างไรก็ตามผู้เสียชีวิตบางรายอาจได้รับรายชื่อทั้งหมดหากมีฉันทามติเพียงพอที่จะทำเช่นนั้น

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วิธีเสนอชื่อรายการ[ แก้ไข]

เพื่อแนะนำผู้สมัคร:

  • อัปเดตบทความที่จะเชื่อมโยงจากการนำเสนอเพื่อรวมความคืบหน้าล่าสุดหรือค้นหาบทความที่ได้รับการอัปเดตแล้ว
  • ค้นหาส่วนที่ถูกต้องด้านล่างสำหรับวันที่จัดงาน (ไม่ใช่วันที่เสนอชื่อ)
    • อย่าเพิ่มส่วนสำหรับวันที่ใหม่ บอทสร้างสิ่งเหล่านี้โดยอัตโนมัติ (เวลาเที่ยงคืนUTC ) การสร้างด้วยตนเองจะทำลายกระบวนการนี้
  • เสนอชื่อการแจ้งเตือนสำหรับการรวม ITN ภายใต้หัวข้อย่อย "คำแนะนำ" สำหรับวันที่โดยใส่ลิงก์ในข้อความแจ้งให้ทราบล่วงหน้าไปยังบทความที่อัปเดต ใช้ส่วนหัวระดับ 4 (====) เมื่อทำเช่นนั้น
    • ควรใช้เทมเพลต {{ ITN ผู้สมัคร }} เพื่อเสนอชื่อบทความที่เกี่ยวข้องกับเหตุการณ์ในข่าว ตรวจสอบให้แน่ใจว่าคุณได้รวมข้อมูลอ้างอิงจากแหล่งข้อมูลทุติยภูมิที่ตรวจสอบได้และเชื่อถือได้ ข่าวประชาสัมพันธ์ไม่เป็นที่ยอมรับ ประกาศแจ้งปัญหาควรจะเขียนในง่ายปัจจุบันกาล
    • การเพิ่มคำอธิบายว่าเหตุใดจึงควรโพสต์กิจกรรมจะช่วยเพิ่มโอกาสในการโพสต์
  • โปรดพิจารณาแจ้งผู้แก้ไขเกี่ยวกับการเสนอชื่อโดยเพิ่มเทมเพลต {{ ITN note }} ในหน้าพูดคุยของบทความที่เกี่ยวข้อง

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ส่วนหัว[ แก้ไข]

  • รายการที่ถูกโพสต์หรือดึงออกจากหน้าหลักโดยทั่วไปจะมีเครื่องหมาย (โพสต์) หรือ (ดึง) ในหัวเรื่องของรายการดังนั้นจึงชัดเจนว่าไม่มีการใช้งานอีกต่อไป
  • นอกจากนี้ยังสามารถทำเครื่องหมายรายการเป็น (พร้อม) เมื่อบทความได้รับการอัปเดตและดูเหมือนว่าจะมีความเห็นพ้องต้องกันในการโพสต์ ผู้ดูแลระบบโพสต์ แต่ควรเสมอตัดสินการปรับปรุงและฉันทามติที่จะโพสต์เอง หากคุณพบข้อความที่คุณไม่รู้สึกว่าพร้อมที่จะโพสต์ถูกทำเครื่องหมายว่า (พร้อม) คุณควรลบเครื่องหมายในส่วนหัวออก

การแสดงความคิดเห็นเกี่ยวกับรายการ[ แก้ไข]

  • จัดรูปแบบความคิดเห็นของคุณให้มีคำว่า " สนับสนุน " หรือ " คัดค้าน " และใส่เหตุผลที่คุณเลือก โดยเฉพาะอย่างยิ่งระบุถึงความโดดเด่นของเหตุการณ์คุณภาพของบทความและว่ามีการอัปเดตหรือไม่

กรุณาอย่า ... [ แก้ไข]

  1. เพิ่มง่าย " สนับสนุน! " หรือ " ไม่เห็นด้วย! " คะแนนโหวตโดยไม่รวมถึงเหตุผลของคุณ ในทำนองเดียวกันการตอบกลับแบบห้วนๆเช่น "who?", "meh" หรือ "duh!" มักจะไม่เป็นประโยชน์ ให้อธิบายเหตุผลที่คุณคิดว่าสินค้าตรงตามหรือไม่ตรงตามเกณฑ์การรวม ITN เพื่อให้บรรลุฉันทามติ
  2. คัดค้านรายการเนื่องจากเหตุการณ์เกี่ยวข้องกับประเทศเดียวหรือไม่เกี่ยวข้องกับประเทศเดียว สิ่งนี้ใช้กับเนื้อหาที่เราโพสต์เป็นเปอร์เซ็นต์สูงและไม่ก่อให้เกิดประโยชน์
  3. กล่าวโทษบรรณาธิการคนอื่น ๆ ว่าสนับสนุนต่อต้านหรือเสนอชื่อเนื่องจากอคติส่วนตัว (เช่นกลุ่มชาติพันธุ์นิยม ) ความขัดแย้งทางผลประโยชน์ไม่ได้รับการจัดการที่ ITN
  4. แสดงความคิดเห็นเกี่ยวกับเรื่องราวโดยไม่ต้องอ่านบทความที่เกี่ยวข้องก่อน
  5. คัดค้านรายการที่เกิดซ้ำที่นี่เนื่องจากคุณไม่เห็นด้วยกับเกณฑ์รายการที่เกิดซ้ำ เกณฑ์ที่สามารถพูดคุยที่หน้าพูดคุยที่เกี่ยวข้อง
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ข้อพิพาทในการตกปลานิวเจอร์ซี[ แก้ไข]

บทความ: 2021 ข้อพิพาทย์ ( พูดคุย · ประวัติศาสตร์  · แท็ก )
เสนอชื่อเข้าชิงรายการอย่างต่อเนื่อง( โพสต์ )
แหล่งข่าว (s): (AP News) (รอยเตอร์)
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ความคิดเห็นของผู้เสนอชื่อ: ยังคงดำเนินต่อไปดังนั้นคำประกาศไม่ถูกต้องและจะเปลี่ยนหลาย ๆ ครั้ง  Elijahandskip ( พูดคุย ) 14:14, 6 พฤษภาคม 2021 (UTC)

Oppose ongoing, would support blurb. According to the infobox, and the lead, it has been going on for 1 day, since 5 May. The article was created on 21:03, May 5, 2021‎. Given the relatively short lifespan of the article, and the short duration of the dispute, it does not qualify as an "ongoing" story in either sense (a long-term story and an article that receives frequent, quality updates). The article on its own is in good enough shape, and the story is being covered by the news, so I don't see why we couldn't put this into blurb form, but this is not what ongoing is for. --Jayron32 14:19, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support blurb and oppose ongoing for now per Jayron. This is a notable dispute and the article is in good shape. Once a blurb is posted, we can move it to ongoing when it rolls off if it's still ongoing or update the blurb if the involved parties reach an agreement to solve the dispute.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose while this Monty Python sketch is well documented, we should probably wait for...well, something to happen before we consider posting. GreatCaesarsGhost 15:52, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per GreatCaesarsGhost. Not enough of an event for ITN. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 16:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now, will support a blurb if the story develops further, but so far this is very minor news and nothing of note has happened. --Jbvann05 (talk) 17:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Ajit Singh (politician)[edit]

Article: Ajit Singh (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Indian minister Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:34, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

(Withdrawn) COVID-19 vaccination[edit]

Withdrawn by nom. --Jayron32 12:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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Article: COVID-19 vaccine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
Credits:
Article updated
Nominator's comments: The proposal is to add a link to COVID-19 vaccination in parentheses immediately after COVID-19 pandemic. Many, if not most, of the news related to the COVID-19 pandemic are about vaccines or the ongoing process of vaccination so it needs to be somehow separated from the main article to highlight its significance at this stage of development. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:02, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I opposed the removal of the special Covid box a few months back, but the decision was made and that's where we are. Vaccination isn't the only aspect of the pandemic that's currently newsworthy, there's the wave in India and Brazil, the variants, changes to lockdown arrangements in different countries too. The pandemic article covers all those topics so it's IMHO sufficient to have that as the primary link into the topic.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
    The primary article is not going to be replaced with this one; it's just a proposal to add a link to a secondary article in parentheses (I was also against removing the box with all links to relevant articles a few months ago.).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
    Yeah, I do understand what you're proposing. I just don't think it's correct to single out out the vaccination programmes for an extra line, as they are far from the only aspect of COVID currently in the news. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 11:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose It already appeared in ongoing section as part of the COVID-19 pandemic article. I don't see any reasons to nominated it as ongoing. 110.137.163.125 (talk) 10:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose No reason to link the same article from two different parts of the Front Page, let alone two different parts of just Ongoing.130.233.213.199 (talk) 11:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Per previous. No need further complicate the MP. – Sca (talk) 12:42, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Withdrawn Thanks for the comments so far. It seems like consensus in support of my proposal is not going to develop.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:38, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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May 5[edit]

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RD: Lucinda Franks[edit]

Article: Lucinda Franks (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American journalist. Article needs some beefing up, but shouldn't take too long. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:16, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Ashraf Sehrai[edit]

Article: Ashraf Sehrai (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, Economic Times
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Prominent figure in the ongoing Kashmir conflict, passed away supposedly due to COVID. Article seems to be in decent enough shape. Mount Patagonia (talk) 04:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

May 4[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Ray Miller (baseball manager)[edit]

Article: Ray Miller (baseball manager) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Baltimore Sun; MLB.com; Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 5). —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment: Playing career should list the position he played (pitcher I assume?), and if available, some basic playing statistics would be useful. Otherwise looks good to go, and Conditional support once that info is added. SpencerT•C 16:28, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Paulo Gustavo[edit]

Article: Paulo Gustavo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Folha de S. Paulo, G1
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Brazilian actor and comedian. Yet another victim of COVID-19. The article was created recently, but it's in decent shape. --SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 02:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Traffic Ramaswamy[edit]

Article: Traffic Ramaswamy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian social activist. Article is not ready for homepage / RD yet. But, not too far away. Will get to it shortly. Ktin (talk) 00:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Simon Achidi Achu[edit]

Article: Simon Achidi Achu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Journal du Cameroun
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 5th Prime Minister of Cameroon. Start-class biography, well-sourced. Jmanlucas (talk) 15:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Manas Bihari Verma[edit]

Article: Manas Bihari Verma (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian aeronautical scientist. Padma Sri awardee. Article is a start class biography. Can expand based on available obituaries. Ktin (talk) 03:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Alan McLoughlin[edit]

Article: Alan McLoughlin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Irish International footballer Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose – most of the article is unreferenced. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Skippy2520: Quantity of refs does not matter. Every paragraph needs to be verified with at least one ref. Only three paragraphs are fully cited right now. —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

May 3[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Frazier Glenn Miller Jr.[edit]

Article: Frazier Glenn Miller Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press ABC News
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former political candidate and Neo-Nazi who was on death row and was responsible for the Overland Park Jewish Community Center shootingInexpiable (talk) 19:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Looks fine aside from the "Electoral History" section. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Mexico City Metro overpass collapse[edit]

Getting off-track again... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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Article: Mexico City Metro overpass collapse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​A Mexico City Metro train derails on an overpass as it collapses, killing at least 20 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​An elevated section of the Mexico City Metro collapses leaving 23 people dead and more than 70 injured.
News source(s): The New York Times, The Washington Post, Reuters, AP, BBC, Guardian
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Article is undergoing expansion, but a train accident of this scale is bound to be covered. SounderBruce 05:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - Easily important enough & the article is being rapidly improved. Jim Michael (talk) 07:42, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - first item on BBC site this morning. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 07:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality. Article is not in a fit state to post at this point in time. Mjroots (talk) 08:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Switching to Support now that the article has been expanded. Mjroots (talk) 11:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • OPpose on quality. Currently barely more than a stub. Seems notable enough when ready though.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'll continue updating it in a few hours, it's 3 am here and it misses a lot of information about how corruption was involved since Day 0. It's sad, but these are the consequences. (CC) Tbhotch 08:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - With 12 sources I think the quality is high enough to post. Ljgua124 (talk) 09:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    It has sources, but it's still too short. Hopefully with Tbhotch's work or some other updates, it will be ready before too long.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:45, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment bridge collapse nomination in 2018 --LaserLegs (talk) 09:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Extended discussion
Though there's no fixed minimum number of deaths for an article to be important enough for ITN, a higher death toll makes an event significantly more notable. Do you think this one should be posted? Jim Michael (talk) 10:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
(ec) Hmm, on tilt again. Only you bring up "minimum deaths". I was simply offering a comparison that five times more casualties have occurred in this event than the one you helpfully linked. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Do you want this posted? Jim Michael (talk) 10:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Meh, it's your standard boiler plate disaster stub with barely a paragraph of relevant information and will never improve so of course it will be posted. I'm just trying to understand the bridge collapse posting criteria since it's not documented at WP:ITN. In the example I cited above there was a consensus that "if it had happened anywhere else we wouldn't post it" and here we are ready to post a bridge collapse from anywhere else. I'm kind of new here, just trying to understand the ins and outs is all. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
As you know, there's no "bridge collapse criteria". Nominations are judged on their merits. Some have little or no merit, some have some or much merit. It depends. Cheers now! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
This has far more casualties than the one you mentioned. That's the main reason that this one has been posted & that one wasn't. This article has been improving rapidly all day. Jim Michael (talk) 13:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Actually, that is not quite correct. The only reason why this one has been posted, while the other one wasn't, is that this nomination got enough support from people who happened to stop by the ITNC page while the nomination was up, while the other one did not. There are no other reasons why anything gets posted. There is no other rule, there are no precedents, there is nothing except "people who cared said something". --Jayron32 14:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Consensus is why this was posted & previous one wasn't, but this one's higher death toll is clearly a major reason for at least some of us here to say that it should be posted. Jim Michael (talk) 14:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes, but people keep looking for ways to circumvent discussion and disqualify the opinions of others by (falsely) claiming that the reason why things are posted is because we have some sort of minimum limits, or because previous articles that were (or were not) posted in the past established a precedent, and that precedent or rule somehow invalidates the opinions of people who think differently. That is just not how we work. You may have your own private criteria as to why something will be posted, but that criteria is not based on any rule or precedent we have here at Wikipedia, and the fact that someone else uses a different criteria is NOT a reason to invalidate their opinion, despite the repeated efforts of some long-time contributors here to get their way. --Jayron32 14:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Disagreeing with someone, and giving reasons why you disagree - which could include citing informal standards and precedents - is not "invalidating their opinion". Discussion and debate are a healthy part of the consensus-building process. And if it happens that I disagree with someone *and* several of what you call the "long-time contributors", or indeed anyone else, happen to agree with me, then that might be enough to form a consensus contrary to the one I disagreed with. Or perhaps it isn't. That's up to the assessing admin to determine. I'm quite sure everyone who contributes to this page is used to sometimes getting the result they favour and sometimes not.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
We should be disagreeing with people. We should not be doing it in a way that makes it seem like we're saying their comments are invalid because they violate some rule or that precedent has already been established. --Jayron32 15:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support articles in good shape, long enough and sufficiently sourced. I wonder if certain discussions would be taking place if the same event had taken place on the NYS or London Underground... no, I thought not. ——Serial 11:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
In that event, the article & this discussion would have become much longer, much quicker. It would have been posted sooner. Jim Michael (talk) 13:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
I think you mean SNOW closed as "Consensus will not develop to post" in less than 3 hours? --LaserLegs (talk) 20:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted - Fuzheado | Talk 12:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Post-posting support As per consensus. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 14:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Post-posting support Deadliest inccident for the city's metro system, says the BBC article -Gouleg🛋️ (StalkHound) 17:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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RD: Pierce Fulton[edit]

Article: Pierce Fulton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1], [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American DJ and record producer; surprised no one had nominated him. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 02:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose CV, near-stub. Of the 1,5kb of prose, only a single sentence (Death - a single sentence section) relates biographical information. On the plus side, the dates of birth and death are both listed, referencing is very thorough and the 'ographies are complete and referenced.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Helen Murray Free[edit]

Article: Helen Murray Free (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 3). —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Support Nice article - good references, notable, and a good article in general. RIP Fakescientist8000 (talk) 01:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Donald Cameron (Nova Scotia premier)[edit]

Article: Donald Cameron (Nova Scotia premier) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News (Canadian Press)
Credits:

Article updated

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 Bloom6132 (talk) 22:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support: Article seems to be very well sourced. As the former Premier of Nova Scotia, it would be hard to see any other reason besides poor sourcing to not see him on ITN. – Jmanlucas (talk) 22:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
All people with a Wikipedia article are eligible to be on RD. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 22:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Yes I understand that. Was merely adding to the point that this article would be good for RD. – Jmanlucas (talk) 23:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Bobby Unser[edit]

Article: Bobby Unser (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: 3 time Indy 500 winner rogerd (talk) 21:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose practically all of it is unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    And it's been tagged that way since February 2015. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. The 1981 Indianapolis controversy section is entirely unsourced, and several other citation needed tags are in place. There is still plenty of work to be done before this is eligible to be on In The News.Jmanlucas (talk) 22:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Not enough references, mainly in the Indianapolis 500 controversy section.Jackattack1597 (talk) 23:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    I added a ref for the 2nd paragraph in that section, the 3rd will be a little harder to find, but I will keep looking as time permits. I haven't edited this article before. If you want to reject the ITN, that's fine by me. I will try to improve the article anyways. --rogerd (talk) 00:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    rogerd, no immediate time pressure, you have 7 days before it is archived. Stephen 06:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Bill and melinda gates divorcing[edit]

Good faith nom with WP:SNOW chance. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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Articles: Bill Gates (talk · history · tag) and Melinda Gates (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Bill and Melinda Gates announce their divorce --Daikido (talk) 21:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose They are nowhere close to British royalty, the only possible case I could see for an ITN divorce posting. --Masem (t) 21:08, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose, an event of subpar notability. BD2412 T 21:15, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • SNOW chance Kingsif (talk) 21:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose but I did appreciate the fact this was originally tagged as a "Recent Death" nomination. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose not notable enough. --Aknell4 (talkcontribs) 21:25, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose, because the likelihood of me marrying into Melinda's extreme wealth is tragically slim. Nohomersryan (talk) 21:36, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose - A divorce? Please.BabbaQ (talk) 21:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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RD: Noor Alam Khalil Amini[edit]

Article: Noor Alam Khalil Amini (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Millat Times Urdu
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Announced early morning IST. Known Indian scholar and author. Article updated and is more than a stub. I don't have access to further resources right now and there's not much biographical information available online/offline. The PhD thesis about his book is in Arabic and I don't know Arabic that much. Merits a mention on the ITN. ─ The Aafī (talk) 10:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Was he a religious figure, or an academic? I'm a bit concerned about the weight being given to his personal faith if his focus was more on Arabic literature. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 00:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
AllegedlyHuman – He was both. A religious figure and an academic. He taught at the famous Indian seminary Darul Uloom Deoband and wrote extensively. I do not see where we have given weight to his personal faith? AFAICS, Article speaks about his early life, education and his writings, with specific mentions towards his focus on Arabic literature like his book being taught in dars-e-nizami or his articles etc. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 08:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Just a note. I've updated the article, and tried to address other related concerns. This should be enough now. Thanks. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
It was not initially clear to someone unfamiliar with the subject that he had studied Islam. Still, he was labeled as a "religious figure" in the infobox and described in the first sentence as "an Indian Sunni Muslim scholar", which I do not believe would be appropriate if he studied something other than religion. The article appears to be clearer now, thank you. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 19:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Your comment was really helpful. Thank you. This should be now ready for the ITN. ─ The Aafī (talk) 23:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose There's a bit too much of substance cited only to a primary source ("About the author" from Pas-e-Marg-e-Zindah). Otherwise, it looks good. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:37, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    @GreatCaesarsGhost:. Changed citation at two places. There are just two things now that are cited from here - and those aren't discussed anywhere else. Primary sources are fine to be relied for such primary facts imo. ─ The Aafī (talk) 07:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    Support Agreed. The usage now is acceptable. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) ITNR: 2021 World Snooker Championship[edit]

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Article: 2021 World Snooker Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Mark Selby wins the World Snooker Championship defeating Shaun Murphy in the final. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2021/may/03/snooker-world-championship-final-crucible-mark-selby-shaun-murphy-live
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Listed at ITN/R. Almost up to date, just need to update the final slightly in the prose. See previous ITNs such as for 2019 World Snooker Championship etc.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:45, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I am working on it, but I got a bit behind earlier this week, so I'm not as up to date as usual. I've added a placeholder to confirm he won, and the score and such, just there is some missing detail I'll add ASAP. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 22:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Good article, and it's ITNR so notability doesn't matter.Jackattack1597 (talk) 22:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Stunningly in-depth, update on the final looks to now be at sufficient length. Another FA in the making. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 22:14, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. No need to hang around on this one I think. The article is ITN/R, so need to wait for consensus on notability, two supports, final has been updated (and will no doubt be expanded even more very soon), and the quality looks excellent otherwise.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2[edit]

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(Posted) RD: Ernest E. West[edit]

Article: Ernest E. West (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Courier-Journal; The Daily Independent
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 2). —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Brief, but has adequate coverage of what he was notable for (Medal of Honor). SpencerT•C 16:15, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per Spencers comments, looks ready JW 1961 Talk 10:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 16:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jacques d'Amboise (dancer)[edit]

Article: Jacques d'Amboise (dancer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Former New York City Ballet principal dancer and the founder of the National Dance Institute. I will expand the article further, but with his long career it will take a while, and I think the article is now decent enough for RD. Corachow (talk) 09:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support. Nice work. Article seems to meet hygiene expectations for homepage / RD on a quick glance. Ktin (talk) 17:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 18:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: S. G. Neginhal[edit]

Article: S. G. Neginhal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deccan Herald
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Indian wildlife and nature conservationist. Article has shaped into a decent C-class biography. Meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 02:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Appropriate depth of coverage, referenced. Marking ready. SpencerT•C 18:45, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 16:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: John Dee Holeman[edit]

Article: John Dee Holeman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The News & Observer
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 2). —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:10, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Long quote from the National Endowment for the Arts copypasted in the article. It does appear to be public domain, so copyright would not be an issue, but currently it's in there with pretty much no context and doesn't seem to add much; would suggest breaking up. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Colombian protests[edit]

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Article: 2021 Colombian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nationwide protests in Colombia against proposed tax increases result in at least seventeen dead. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Nationwide protests in Colombia against proposed tax increases to fund a basic income program result in at least seventeen dead.
Alternative blurb II: Colombia withdraws a proposed tax reform after opposition riots leave seventeen dead.
Alternative blurb III: Nationwide protests in Colombia against proposals for tax increases and privatized health care result in at least seventeen dead.
Alternative blurb IV: ​Colombian president Iván Duque Márquez withdraws a proposed tax reform after nationwide protests leave at least seventeen dead.
News source(s): CNN, The Guardian, Deutsche Welle
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Large protests involving tens of thousands of Colombians protesting in the nation's largest metro areas against increased taxes. Notable as it is covered by numerous international agencies. Alternate blurb is to possibly include more NPOV and background to the situation. --WMrapids (talk) 15:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Significant coverage and arguably the most notable protests in Latin America at the moment. Good article quality. --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support As the creator of the article (that was originally a stub) and as a colombian; I can confirm this is a series of protests that wasn't seen since 2019 (sorry for my rough english). Sr. Knowthing ¿señor? 23:46, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose quality I don't see this as being at the top of the global news, but can balance it with higher page quality per WP:ITNCRIT. One such area is expanding the lead for a better overview per MOS:INTRO.—Bagumba (talk) 10:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    Resolved.—Bagumba (talk) 17:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Lots of coverage, well-referenced, nice article. Could be expanded a little, but it's no big problem. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 11:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support The protests are important enough to be posted & the article's quality is easily good enough. Jim Michael (talk) 12:26, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article could use a little expansion, especially in the lead, but on the whole is not bad. I think it's good enough for the main page, the sourcing is good and it is relatively comprehensive in the body. The story is being covered by major news sources. Meets all requirements for ITN. --Jayron32 12:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support nice little artcle.——Serial 12:48, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment – Unsee much coverage in RS-land. – Sca (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment The article mainly focuses on the "Ingreso Solidario" part of the reform. Other important aspects of the reform and causes of the protest should be mentioned. -pasunjacques 15:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - has an orange level maintenance tag. The lead should be expanded before this is posted. Anarchyte (talkwork) 14:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed. --Jayron32 15:53, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I don't care if it's posted or not, but the proposed change was withdrawn and the blurb should reflect the same. Alt2 added --LaserLegs (talk) 16:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @LaserLegs: The wording "opposition riots" is not suitable or NPOV, though we should mention that the plan was cancelled.--WMrapids (talk) 16:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
When protests kill 6 people, they're called riots. Papering over riots is a WP:RGW but I don't care that much --LaserLegs (talk) 17:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
The protests didn't kill the people, the crackdown did. Unless you want to say "Police riot and kill 6 protestors". --Jayron32 17:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Exactly, the police cracked down on rioters, and a few were killed resisting law enforcement. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:09, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
It depends on one's perception of "law and order".—Bagumba (talk) 03:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Don't care about the blurb. Article is in good shape. Y'all figure out the wording amongst yourselves. --Jayron32 17:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I have understood that this protests began due to a tax plan proposed by the government, what seems is happening is that the sense of the protests, now that the government withdraw the proposal for the tax plan, has changed to show general disconformation with the Iván Duque's government. Sr. Knowthing ¿señor? 23:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
My bad for the delayed comment; I was out eating with my family. Anyways, to answer your question, Alt III looks good to me. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 01:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Alt IV Dedicated new article on topical subject with sufficient quality. As for the blurb, the president withdrew the proposal, not the country itself, per se.—Bagumba (talk) 17:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    Comment Should also add that the withdrawl represents the latest news, and its omission would make the blurb seem dated.—Bagumba (talk) 03:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Mark ready Posting admin might be able to make an editorial decision on the blurb, or it might be obvious with more comments.—Bagumba (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Alt IV Clearest, least biased, and most complete of the various options. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 19:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • plus Posted Alt-blurb IV, mostly due to the fact of withdrawal being included. --qedk (t c) 06:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

May 1[edit]

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Sports


RD: Martin Bookspan[edit]

Article: Martin Bookspan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post; The Berkshire Eagle
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (May 1). —Bloom6132 (talk) 06:53, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Appropriate depth of coverage; referenced. SpencerT•C 01:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) US withdrawal from Afghanistan[edit]

Withdrawn by nominator. Stephen 23:13, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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Article: 2021 withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The U.S. Armed Forces start their withdrawal from Afghanistan. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC
Credits:
Nominator's comments: As far as I remember, we didn't post the decision to withdraw, so we can post the actual start of the withdrawal. Brandmeistertalk 10:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment we did post it, I have to dig up the link --LaserLegs (talk) 11:01, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Here it is. February 2020. The United States surrenders to the Taliban in Afghanistan --LaserLegs (talk) 11:03, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok. The posted wording was The United States and the Taliban sign a peace agreement which establishes a framework for ending the War in Afghanistan. Withdrawing (no pun intended), but if someone wants to proceed, feel free to re-open. Brandmeistertalk 11:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Assuming it goes as planned, I think the conclusion of the whole thing on 9/11 is worth posting even more so than the terms last Feb. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:53, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
@LaserLegs: I agree with posting when the whole initiative concludes. Who knows what may happen between then and now...--WMrapids (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Oppose: Let's wait until there is a conclusive finish to troop deployments in Afghanistan.--WMrapids (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Joseph Z. Nederlander[edit]

Article: Joseph Z. Nederlander (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 04:25, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Everything there seems well sourced JW 1961 Talk 18:32, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 18:42, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Kentucky Derby[edit]

Article: 2021 Kentucky Derby (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In horse racing, Medina Spirit wins the Kentucky Derby. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​In horse racing, Medina Spirit wins the the Kentucky Derby, the record seventh victory for trainer Bob Baffert.
Alternative blurb II: ​In horse racing, Medina Spirit wins the the Kentucky Derby, a record seventh victory in the race for trainer Bob Baffert.
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:02, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Should Bob Baffert's record-setting seventh win as a trainer be mentioned in the blurb? I feel like it would be unusual to mention a trainer in the headline about a race win, but there is an atypical circumstance in this case. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
    I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, added ALT1. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support alt1 The article looks good, and a record seems worth mentioning.Jackattack1597 (talk) 00:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support alt1 per Jackattack1597. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 01:11, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • The race itself has no narrative, and is only a table of results. The background section needs a tense change for actual attendance restrictions. Stephen 03:20, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
    Stephen, the tenses have been updated and I will add a narrative of the race in just a bit. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:23, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Added Alt II. Need to clarify that it's Baffert's seventh Derby win, as opposed to say his seventh overall, seventh in a Grand Slam, etc.—Bagumba (talk) 09:22, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support alt1 No cleanup tags and it's in ITN/R --Aknell4 (talkcontribs) 14:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support AltII looks to cover everything the better JW 1961 Talk 14:34, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • PostedBagumba (talk) 16:26, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Olympia Dukakis[edit]

Article: Olympia Dukakis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article has usual sourcing problems with Hollywood actors - needs major sourcing to be ready for RD. Masem (t) 19:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment It's getting there with the heavy editing, filmography almost completly sourced but quite a few CN's still in the prose, will re-visit later JW 1961 Talk 18:21, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Very good article! Nice referencing, although could do with a little cleaning up, and, as usual, RIP. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 15:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 04:43, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Mohammad Shahabuddin[edit]

Article: Mohammad Shahabuddin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
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Nominator's comments: Convicted for murder and a ex Indian MP Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment: Pretty close; 1 CN tag remaining. One other consideration is the sentence Shahabuddin is synonymous with criminal-politician in India; his is the standard to which other criminal-politicians are compared, and the ref is an example of the second half of the sentence, but doesn't necessarily support the assertion that "Shahabuddin is synonymous with criminal-politician in India." As a potentially defamatory claim in a BLP, this definitely needs a source (or two) supporting that statement. SpencerT•C 00:51, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

April 30[edit]

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Sports


(Posted) RD: Anthony Payne[edit]

Article: Anthony Payne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: London composer, died shortly after his wife, soprano Jane Manning who appeared in RD. - Good obit in the Telegraph, was just not used enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support: meets criteria. Grimes2 (talk) 07:08, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support well sourced, suitable for RD JW 1961 Talk 21:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • plus Posted --qedk (t c) 21:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Eli Broad[edit]

Article: Eli Broad (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
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Nominator's comments: Looks about ready to go. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 01:22, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Looks good to meJackattack1597 (talk) 01:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Inline tags should be addressed, especially in the "Early Life" section. Joofjoof (talk) 20:43, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Remaining citation tag at Eli Broad#Grand Avenue project. The page needed tags should not be a show-stopper.—Bagumba (talk) 02:59, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. CN tag addressed. SpencerT•C 04:29, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Soli Sorabjee[edit]

Article: Soli Sorabjee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
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Nominator's comments: Former Attorney-General of India Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:10, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose. I had a crack at cleaning it up, but some citations are still needed and it could use a looking-over for any remaining WP:PROMOtional language. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:18, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. I think the article is quite clean. He had quite an impact on law and politics in India by appearing in multiple major constitutional cases in the courts, some of which even have their own wikipedia articles. This one for instance basically defined that certain parts of the constitution are not up for debate or changes. - Ujwal.Xankill3r (talk) 13:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. Nice work by AleatoryPonderings, Joofjoof and others in getting this article to homepage levels of hygiene. Marking this ready. Ktin (talk) 17:38, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose CV in prose format; limited depth of coverage. It seems like human rights is an important aspect of his career, but the article only devotes 1 sentence to it (He worked on the Citizen's Justice Committee which represented the 1984 anti-Sikh riots victims pro bono.). Rm ready. SpencerT•C 18:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Concur with Spencer, article could use a few more sentences that give background on his receiving the Padma Vibhushan "for his defence of the freedom of expression and the protection of human rights".—Bagumba (talk) 02:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: K. V. Anand[edit]

Article: K. V. Anand (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Article needs updating

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Breaking now. Indian Tamil language film director and cinematographer. Additional details will be available soon. Article requires work including fixing references and citations before being ready for homepage / RD. RIP. Edits and citations expanded. Seems to meet hygiene expectations for homepage / RD for a film-linked personality. RIP. Ktin (talk) 04:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Sourcing looks complete and tone is neutral. Joofjoof (talk) 07:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - sufficiently improved for RD JW 1961 Talk 18:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. Black Kite (talk) 18:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Israel stampede[edit]

Article: 2021 Israel stampede (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​44 people were killed and hundreds more injured, in a stampede at the annual Meron pilgrimage during Lag BaOmer (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​the joint-deadliest non-military accident in the history of the country
Alternative blurb II: ​At least 44 are killed during a stampede in Meron, Israel.
Alternative blurb III: ​In Israel, at least 44 people are killed in a stampede at Mount Meron during a celebration for the annual Jewish holiday Lag BaOmer.
Alternative blurb IV: ​In Israel, at least 44 people are killed in a stampede at a religious festival in Mount Meron.
News source(s): The New York Times,The Wall Street Journal, AP, BBC, Guardian, Reuters
Credits:
  • Support With 44 deaths and rising, this is Israel's deadliest non military event and is breaking news in most major US outlets. | MK17b | (talk) 02:53, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • The article is currently well short of meeting WP:ITNCRIT. —Cryptic 03:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose at present Awful prose, awful infobox, awful suggested blurbs. Maybe once more of Europe is awake, this will be a decent article. -- Kicking222 (talk) 04:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
    Post-posting weak support The article still isn't great, especially the Reactions section, but it meets the bare minimum for posting. -- Kicking222 (talk) 13:09, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose At a minimum, needs a bit more expansion at only 1379 bytes readable prose.Bagumba (talk) 04:32, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
    Page since expanded.—Bagumba (talk) 06:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support awful disaster. The article has been cleaned up and expanded. Blurbs ALT2 and ALT3 are good, though ALT3 is a bit wordy. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 07:00, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support ALT IV, as mention of religious aspect is significant background for the gathering. Showcase new dedicated article of sufficient quality on notable topic in the news.—Bagumba (talk) 07:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is there, good work all. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:20, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. 331dot (talk) 07:43, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Picture? Some pictures here if anyone is creative enough to incorporate it into the blurb.—Bagumba (talk) 08:13, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Hebrew Main Page currently using this one. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:32, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Can someone suggest an italicized (pictured) parenthetical for the blurb and a caption for the pitcture itself?—Bagumba (talk) 08:46, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
That picture is from 2016. It would probably be misleading to post it in association with this year's situation. --Jayron32 11:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I agree. It says it's people "dancing"? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:40, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
That picture very well might be dancing, singing and dancing are often done at Lag BaOmer celebrations. --Jayron32 11:54, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I don't think there should be a picture, particularly one from a different year and particularly not one showing people in the usual celebratory. This is a disaster story, and we don't usually post pics unless there's a very obvious encyclopaedic and not-too-gory shot of the incident itself.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:19, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I mean the picture shows people so crammed together than any dancing is not easy to infer. My point was more that an image of people dancing would be singularly inappropriate for an event with mass fatalities. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:26, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure where I lead you to believe that I disagreed with you on any of that. --Jayron32 14:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
You did not. I thought you might have read my comment as disbelieving that dancing occured. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
We now have a photo of the aftermath. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 04:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
also, both this photo and this photo illustrate how crowded the event was, although neither appears to have been taken after the incident. dying (talk) 14:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment – AP says at least 45. – Sca (talk) 12:41, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
    So corrected. --Jayron32 14:36, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

April 29[edit]

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(Posted) RD: Madeline Davis[edit]

Article: Madeline Davis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Buffalo News
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Activist who taught first college course on lesbians in US, was first open lesbian delegate at DNC, coauthored notable book on lesbian hisory. Entry had a great deal of unsourced detail and for a couple days I’ve been trying to reference—I think what I’ve salvaged gives a strong overview of her life. Innisfree987 (talk) 02:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

[fixed nomination heading. dying (talk) 03:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)]

  • Support. Comprehensive and all grafs of prose fully referenced. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:03, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support article is good enough, deaths was announced 6 days ago- less than a week, so fine to post this. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 01:23, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Billie Hayes[edit]

Article: Billie Hayes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo!
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lidsville scared the living c*@p out of me as a kid. CoatCheck (talk) 21:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose – unreferenced. Still an orange tag and cn tags that need to be addressed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Byron Seaman[edit]

Article: Byron Seaman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News (Canadian Press); Calgary Sun; NHL.com
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (April 29). —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Would like to see maybe a little more about his role as an owner of the Flames, but meets minimum standards. Marking ready. Bloom6132 ping me in about 24 hours if this hasn't been posted or received any other comments. SpencerT•C 18:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 16:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mantfombi Dlamini[edit]

Article: Mantfombi Dlamini (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The South African, Reuters
Credits:
Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Queen regent of the Zulu Nation dies one month after the king. Joofjoof (talk) 02:36, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Could use some minor copyediting, but referenced and article describes her role in sufficient detail. SpencerT•C 20:23, 1 May 2021 (UTC)s
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 18:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Anne Buydens[edit]

Article: Anne Buydens (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:
Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Philantropist and centenarian. Widow of Kirk DouglasJoofjoof (talk) 00:48, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Thank you for the nomination, I believe it's ready now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Adequate depth of coverage, referenced. Marking ready. SpencerT•C 20:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • plus Posted --qedk (t c) 20:42, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Robert Slavin[edit]

Article: Robert Slavin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (April 29). —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:13, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Sufficient quality and referencing.-- P-K3 (talk) 18:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak support Could use a little more info about research career but meets minimum standards. Marking ready. SpencerT•C 20:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • plus Posted --qedk (t c) 20:40, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

RD: Chelato Uclés[edit]

Article: Chelato Uclés (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Football coach, major public personality in Honduras Soman (talk) 00:59, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose Lots of referencing to be done, lots of short stubby paragraphs to be fixed, and not sure about the illustration in the infobox either (looks odd).-- P-K3 (talk) 18:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ronnie Govender[edit]

Article: Ronnie Govender (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): IOL(South Africa)
Credits:

Article needs updating

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Tamil South African activist and playwright. Article is currently a stub and is not ready for homepage / RD. Sufficient information available online to expand the article. If someone wants to give this a shot before me, please go ahead. Else, I will get to it later tonight. Edits and expansion done. Article has shaped up to a nice C-class biography. Good to go to homepage / RD. Nice work Joofjoof. Ktin (talk) 01:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Ktin (talk) 21:06, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

  • I have added some sources from the frwiki version. Joofjoof (talk) 00:08, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. As Ktin says, a nice C-class biography. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 01:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 18:30, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

(Re-posted) Tianhe launch[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Tianhe (space station module) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​China launches the Tianhe space station module (pictured) on a Long March 5B rocket, the first module in the upcoming Tiangong space station. (Post)
News source(s): AP, BBC, SpaceNews
Credits:

Article updated

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Although not a crewed launch, the first module of an upcoming space station is probably newsworthy. osunpokeh (talk) 15:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Nice article, well-referenced, definitely ITN-worthy. Wikipedia seems to be chock-filled with space-related news this week, doesn't it? Fakescientist8000 (talk) 17:30, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment "the launch of a space station or a major component thereof" is considered ITN/R, so this automatically passes the notability check. However, the article is missing a couple of citations. NorthernFalcon (talk) 17:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support I guess Spring 2021 is Space Season. Definitely ITN-worthy --Aknell4 (talkcontribs) 18:22, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose With an article this short, no CNs can remain. GreatCaesarsGhost 19:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support No CN's remaining as of now JW 1961 Talk 21:39, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - The article is in good shape. STSC (talk) 23:59, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - The CNs are now fixed, article was improved from start of day. Albertaont (talk) 00:09, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted - Fuzheado | Talk 05:09, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment The "structure" section remains largely uncited. It appears someone removed the tags without adding citations, but there is still significant material there with no references. GreatCaesarsGhost 11:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Pulled. Per GreatCaesarsGhost's comment above, the Structure section was nowhere near ready here, and it doesn't look like it was at the time of posting either. Quality issues need to be addressed before posting. Once these are sorted out, it can be re-posted. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 12:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I have cleared all the CNs. STSC (talk) 12:12, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Again, we're not just removing the tags, but providing references to the material. A single citation[6] has been provided for the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs, but it only covers the material in the second. The third graph topics (history of docking ports, service life of TCM, benefits of modular stations) are not in that ref. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:54, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll look into it. STSC (talk) 15:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Done, I believe the article meets the "minimum standard of quality" for ITN. STSC (talk) 15:43, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Re-posted Adequately referenced now. SpencerT•C 16:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • question: i admittedly don't know what the protocol is for nominations reposted after they have been pulled, but should STSC receive some kind of credit, considering that STSC was largely responsible for getting the article up to posting quality after it was pulled? dying (talk)
Anyone is free to give credit to anyone they think deserves it. Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
oh, i had not realized that. thanks for letting me know. dying (talk) 05:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

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